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| | I should probably point out that this is quite sum of parts. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 19:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC) | | I should probably point out that this is quite sum of parts. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 19:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC) |
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| | + | == Deletion debate == |
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| | + | {{rfd-passed|text=== <s>[[CD player]]</s> == |
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| | + | [[CD]] + [[player]], sense 8. -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 18:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | :I'm in favor of deletion. Actually if kept, put in [[:Category:English non-idiomatic translation targets]]. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 10:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | *Definitely '''keep'''. This is a set phrase which refers to a specific thing. <{{#switch:|term|ital=i|head|bold=b|span}} class="latinx" {{#if:|lang="{{{lang}}}"}}>[[User:Widsith|Ƿidsiþ]]</{{#switch:|term|ital=i|head|bold=b|span}}> 20:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | ::'''Keep''', per Widsith. How would uninformed readers know that it's sense 8 of ''player'' rather than one of the other eight? [[User:Longtrend|Longtrend]] 20:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | :Delete; it may be a set phrase, but it's pure SOP. Besides the fact sense 8 of player is "An electronic device that plays various audio and video media, such as CD player", I don't see any way that a reasonably intelligent reader could interpret any other sense of player as being appropriate--except for sense 9, and CD player can be [[CD]] + [[player]], sense 9. (Check out CD player software on Google, for examples.)--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] 03:33, 11 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | ::It can definitely be sense 9 of ''player'' also, and I'd say to delete it as now defined ("An electronic device that plays compact discs"), except that I suspect that our definition is wrong, as a CD player, at least AFAICT, is something that plays ''audio'' CDs only, as opposed to, e.g., CD-ROMs.<span class="Unicode">​—[[User:Msh210|msh210]]℠</span> ([[user talk:Msh210|talk]]) 17:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | :::Actually yes. Many CD players play MP3 CDs, which are in essence CD-ROMs with MP3 files on them, so they do play CD-ROMs. -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 18:17, 11 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | :::That seems right; "CD player" implies "audio CD player", regardless of whether player of an audio CD or a CD with MP3 files. A CD player does not play CDs with video files, right? --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] 19:04, 11 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | ::: I would say that CD in many contexts implies audio CD. Like Billboard, Apr 11, 2009 "The rapid erosion in CD sales shows no sign of letting up."[http://books.google.com/books?id=cNGE2uvYQdoC&pg=PT5&dq=CD+sales] I think that's a lack in [[CD]], to miss the specific meaning of a compact disc holding audio data in a Red Book compliant manner.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] 19:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| | + | Hmm, cf. '''2008''', Mark J. P. Wolf, ''The video game explosion: a history from PONG to Playstation and beyond'', p. 119; |
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| | + | :In 1989 NEC released a '''CD player''' for the console that gave it the ability to read data from compact discs. While the CD player could be used to play standard audio discs, it had been designed especially for video game use. |
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| | + | -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| | + | :'''Keep'''; refers to an electronic device that is designed to read CDs, and does not usually refer to a person who plays them. If I play a CD, that does not make me a CD player. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] 00:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| | + | :: Again, it doesn't always refer to an electronic device; it sometimes refers to a computer program. And it's debatable, if I were asked to be the CD player at a party, I don't think I would have problem understanding the request.--[[User:Prosfilaes|Prosfilaes]] 02:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC) |
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| | + | ::: And I would understand if someone asked me to be a smoke detector. That does not invalidate our entry for {{term|smoke detector}}. Your proposal is hypothetical and (at best) rare; people who play music at parties are called [[disc jockey]]s, not CD players. --[[User:EncycloPetey|EncycloPetey]] 02:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | ::::I wouldn't have understood this command. -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 10:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | :::::'''Delete'''. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 23:22, 2 December 2010 (UTC) |
| | + | '''Rfd-passed'''. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 12:27, 10 September 2011 (UTC)}} |
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