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Talk:qyamancha
Sep 23rd 2011, 11:54

Deletion debate: new section

← Older revision Revision as of 11:54, 23 September 2011
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==Comment: other forms cited==
==Comment: other forms cited==
I couldn't find any uses of this spelling, but I have just cited [[kyamancha]] and [[kamancha]]. [[User:-sche|- -sche]] [[User talk:-sche|(discuss)]] 04:18, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't find any uses of this spelling, but I have just cited [[kyamancha]] and [[kamancha]]. [[User:-sche|- -sche]] [[User talk:-sche|(discuss)]] 04:18, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
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== Deletion debate ==
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{{rfd-failed|text=== <s>[[qyamancha]]</s> ==
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: ''Note: all referenced discussions have been archived to [[Talk:qyamancha]]. See there for background. —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 23:12, 25 September 2010 (UTC)''
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I marked this '''RFV failed''' and pseudo-deleted accordingly (by moving it sans redirect to [[Citations:qyamancha]], and formatting it as a citations page), and no one objected in the RFV discussion itself, but {{user|Doremítzwr}} left a comment at my talk-page disagreeing, and I now see that he left a comment at {{user|Vahagn Petrosyan}}'s talk-page as well, and to judge by Vahagn's reply, Vahagn also disagrees with the pseudo-deletion.
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I think I acted correctly — the citations given don't seem to be "durably archived" to me, and I couldn't find any durably archived cites myself. (The only Google Books hit is a mention with attribution to Wikipedia; Google Groups turns up no Usenet hits; and Google Scholar and Google News Archive both turn up blanks.) However, Doremítzwr believes that the citations ''are'' durably archived, so I'd like input from third parties, if possible.
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(This may actually be better as a BP discussion, or as a new RFV discussion, but since (1) we're only discussing one entry at the moment and (2) the previous RFV discussion failed to garner comments, I thought I'd bring it here first.)
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—[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 23:12, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
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:Perhaps the problem is how can a one word title convey meaning? If there was a very famous painting called [[Wiktionary]], what definition would that justify for the word? [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 23:12, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
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:: Well, I'm not sure about the album, but the paintings do depict the instrument. (If you follow the links in [[Citations:qyamancha]], you can see pictures of them.) That's not perfect — for example, none of the titles use an article, even though I'm almost positive that in a sentence one would say "a qyamancha" rather than simply "qyamancha" — but it's not the worst thing ever. —[[User: Ruakh |Ruakh]]<sub ><small ><i >[[User talk: Ruakh |TALK]]</i ></small ></sub > 02:08, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
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: '''Delete.''' I am not perfectly sure, but the reasoning that you have shown in RFV (see [[Talk:qyamancha]]) seems valid to me, so this word should be deleted as having failed RFV. --[[User:Dan Polansky|Dan Polansky]] 09:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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'''closed''', there doesn't seem to be any kind of consensus for restoring the entry -- [[User:Liliana-60|Liliana]] [[User talk:Liliana-60|•]] 04:00, 6 August 2011 (UTC)}}

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