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− | == <s>[[:Category:Fictional people]]</s> == | |
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− | Overly specific and arbitrary. Could be merged upward with [[:Category:Fictional characters]]. I find it interesting that [[fairy godmother]] is included, since there is obviously dispute over whether a [[w:faery|faery]] can be considered an actual [[person]]. [[User:TeleComNasSprVen|TeleComNasSprVen]] 07:22, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :Delete and merge entries upwards, I agree. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 09:07, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :OK. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 15:01, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | : Merge as proposed. [[User:BD2412|<font style="background:lightgreen">''bd2412''</font>]] [[User talk:BD2412|'''T''']] 21:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | '''Fails''' the rfd process. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 15:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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| == [[:Template:alcohol]] == | | == [[:Template:alcohol]] == |
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| This code expands to 'Lenape' which is a macrolanguage, and we already have the codes {{temp|unm}} and {{temp|umu}} for its two sublanguages, and also [[:Category:Unami language]], while [[:Category:Lenape language]] has already been deleted before. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 21:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC) | | This code expands to 'Lenape' which is a macrolanguage, and we already have the codes {{temp|unm}} and {{temp|umu}} for its two sublanguages, and also [[:Category:Unami language]], while [[:Category:Lenape language]] has already been deleted before. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 21:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC) |
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− | == <s>[[:Category:Marvel Comics]]</s> == | |
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− | Per [[#Category:DC Comics]]. Only three entries. [[User:TeleComNasSprVen|TeleComNasSprVen]] 06:16, 8 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :'''Delete''' as in line with other deletions. IMO, this category loses some of its charm in the absence of similar categories. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 07:55, 8 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | '''Deleted''' --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 13:28, 9 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[Template:eng]]</s> == | |
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− | This is currently a redirect to [[Template:en]]. While aliases don't cause problems in themselves, the problem is when they are checked against a known value. Many templates check whether the code is <tt>en</tt> in particular and behave differently in that case. Those templates will fail if someone provides them with the code <tt>eng</tt> instead, unless they were specifically written to handle that. But we can't expect all template writers to know all alternative codes, there could be several for one language. Therefore I think it's best to delete this code, or at least make it unusable so that there are no surprises. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 13:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :You're right: {{temp|physics|2=lang=eng}} categorizes in [[:Category:eng:Physics]]. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 13:30, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :: And the same would apply to {{temp|physics|2=lang=hbs}}, {{temp|physics|2=lang=nld}}, and any other alternative code. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 13:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :::I regularly (but not very often) use [[Appendix:ISO 639-1 language codes]] to check that the redirected templates are orphaned. Most of the time it doesn't really matter, apart from {{temp|etyl|en|hbs}} or {{temp|t|hbs|...}}. Neither of these could work. For eng, something like <code><nowiki>{{en}}<includeonly>[[Category:Pages using deprecated templates]]</includeonly></nowiki></code>. This works because {{temp|en}} has no parameters. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :::: That will break any page that tries to use {{temp|eng}}. I don't think it's such a bad issue, but I think instead of making the code usable, we should just put an explanation on its page that explains why it shouldn't be used and which code should be used instead. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 10:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | : Additional idea: If any page transcludes [[Template:eng]], [[Template:por]], etc., it will be categorized into [[:Category:Pages using redirected language code templates]] for future review and cleanup. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 10:52, 3 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :: Would that really work in practice? What if a template used something like <nowiki>[[Category:</nowiki>{{temp|language|eng}}<nowiki> nouns]]</nowiki>? That would then become: <nowiki>[[:Category:English [[Category:Pages using redirected language code templates]] nouns]]</nowiki> —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 12:20, 8 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | This was deleted as part of [[#All 3-letter language templates that have a 2-letter equivalent]]. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[Template:mo]]</s> == | |
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− | [[m:Proposals for closing projects/Deletion of Moldovan Wikipedia|Deprecated]]. [[User:TeleComNasSprVen|TeleComNasSprVen]] 06:39, 15 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :"[[Template:mo]]" and "http://mo.wiktionary.org/" are different things. '''Keep''' the template as long as we have [[:Category:Moldavian language]].--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 10:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::Keep, this is a de facto nomination of [[:Category:Moldavian language]] and all of its subcategories, and I've seen no discussion on the matter. No discussion, no support from me. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:16, 15 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :::We could, and might as well, start the discussion of the category here then. [[User:TeleComNasSprVen|TeleComNasSprVen]] 05:12, 16 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::::Take it to the BP.<span class="Unicode">​—[[User:Msh210|msh210]]℠</span> ([[user talk:Msh210|talk]]) 19:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::According to [http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=mol this report] from the [[w:Summer Institute of Linguistics|Summer Institute of Linguistics]] linked to in the proposal discussion above about the closure of mowiki-related Wikimedia sites, the former ISO-639 code mol (mo) was retired in 2008, i.e. merged with the code [http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=ron ron] (ro) and therefore any entries containing the Moldavian language code should probably be changed to Romanian ro instead. Ergo, this template seems unnecessary as it does not represent an official language. [[User:TeleComNasSprVen|TeleComNasSprVen]] 05:12, 16 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :::The thing is, we use {{temp|mo}} to represent Romanian as written in Cyrillic script (or Moldovan, depending on your point of view). In that aspect, the code is mildly useful. -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 17:59, 16 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::::We don't follow ISO 639-1 religiously, the fact it's deprecated doesn't automatically exclude it from Wiktionary (no better example of this than {{temp|sh}}). --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 18:07, 16 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::::: The practice of using language codes to represent scripts is controversial, though. There are currently discussions about changing that for Chinese, as well. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 18:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :::::This was '''moved''' to {{temp|etyl:mo}} as part of the unification of Romanian and Moldavian. This debate has been dead for so long it seems wrong to continue it, so I'd suggest that if anyone wants to nominate {{temp|etyl:mo}} they should do so, and this debate will end in an 'rfd-archived' as opposed to rfd-passed or rfd-failed. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:08, 31 December 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[:Template:lad-noun-rom]]</s> == | |
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− | Redundant to {{temp|lad-noun}}, which has been created since the creation of this template. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:37, 16 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :'''Delete'''. [[User:Embryomystic|embryomystic]] 07:06, 24 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::'''Done'''. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 22:37, 29 June 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[:Category:English words suffixed with -work]]</s> == | |
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− | This category seems to hold compounds only. It might be an idea to categorize by compound-parts, though.--[[User:Leolaursen|Leo Laursen]] – ([[User talk:Leolaursen|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Leolaursen|contribs]]) 08:20, 19 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :Speedy delete. [[Category talk:English words suffixed with -work|Previously failed RFDO]]. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 11:14, 19 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::'''Done'''. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 18:33, 19 June 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[:Template:etyl:iir-iar]]</s> == | |
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− | This template is redundant to {{temp|etyl:inc}}, because Indic and Indo-Aryan are the same thing. I think we should delete this template and change the other one to display 'Indo-Aryan' instead. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 13:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :Good catch! '''delete''' -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 14:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::'''Deleted''' by [[User:CodeCat]]. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 10:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[Template:etyl:awd-mai]]</s> == | |
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− | Redundant to [[Template:etyl:awd]]. ''Arawakan'' and ''Maipurean'' are simply synonyms that refer to the very same language family. -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 14:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | : '''Delete''', but what should the remaining template be called? —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 15:07, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::Wouldn't this work as some kind of redirect or transclusion? It's bad enough that contributors need to learn ISO codes without essentially prohibiting some. [[User: DCDuring |DCDuring]] <small >[[User talk: DCDuring|TALK]]</small > 16:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :::It would just increase the confusion, imho. As for the name, ''Arawakan'' seems to be much more widespread, from what I can tell. -- [[User:Prince Kassad|Prince Kassad]] 17:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::::'''Deleted''' by [[User:CodeCat]]. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 10:45, 13 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[:Wiktionary:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense]]</s> == | |
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− | I [[have a funny feeling]] that every one of these "jokes" are only funny to one person. plus, there are probably other reasons to delete this {{unsigned|Girlnotboy|21:33, 22 June 2011 (UTC)}} | |
− | * '''Keep'''. I think some of it is funny. :) —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 21:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | * '''Keep'''. I like this page. The rationale for deletion is a bit sketchy. A lot of the jokes are groaners, hence "bad" jokes. —'''[[User:Internoob|Internoob]]''' ([[User talk:Internoob|Disc]]•[[Special:Contributions/Internoob|Cont]]) 22:15, 23 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | * '''Keep'''. We need a bit of fun here to stop our brains turning into mush. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 09:18, 24 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | *'''Delete''' Will easily (if it has not already) turn into a "[[hall of fame]]" for vandals. (see [[meta:Don't feed the trolls]]) --[[User:Hydrox|Hydrox]] 12:12, 25 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | * '''Keep'''. [[User:-sche|- -sche]] [[User talk:-sche|(discuss)]] 15:43, 25 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | : I wouldn't miss it, personally! [[User:Equinox|Equinox]] [[User_talk:Equinox|◑]] 15:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | * '''Keep'''. There's nothing wrong with a bit of harmless humour. --[[User:Joshua Issac|Joshua Issac]] 01:47, 21 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | '''Kept''' per consensus. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 05:07, 26 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :I am disappointed this passed. Surely you can find other places or ways to amuse yourselves, and not waste space by archiving unfunny vandalism attempts here? --[[User:Pilcrow|Pilcrow]] 05:33, 26 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::You can just not read that page, if it bothers you, Pilcrow. Or even renominate it for deletion, eventually, but I wouldn't bother trying to change that consensus. Surely there are easier and better things to do. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 16:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | == <s>[[Template:altformscat]]</s> == | |
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− | It is orphaned. Its work was filling [[:Category:English alternative forms]], [[:Category:German alternative forms]], etc. with contents. | |
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− | It was replaced by {{temp|lexiconcatboiler}}, which works for many other categories as well. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel]] 23:18, 23 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | : I don't think there is any reason to keep it. —[[User:CodeCat|CodeCa]][[User talk:CodeCat|t]] 23:27, 23 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | ::Shot on sight; when I created Template:altformscat I always intended to delete it if it got superseded. --[[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 09:17, 24 June 2011 (UTC) | |
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| == [[Appendix:Etymology/escalator]] == | | == [[Appendix:Etymology/escalator]] == |
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| :*Category:English male given names that look like they might be transliterations from languages spoken in the former British India where English is one of the official languages. | | :*Category:English male given names that look like they might be transliterations from languages spoken in the former British India where English is one of the official languages. |
| :Or should names from unkown and rare languages be kept permanently outside subcategories? I'd like to see as few subcategories as possible. I think a subcategory should have at least 10-20 members, so there are no categories for names from Provençal (Eleanor), Basque (Xavier), Akan (Kwame), Tahitian (Tehanu), Hawaiian (Leilani) even though they are borne by Anglophones. [[:Category:English male given names from Yoruba]] is madness. What about putting all the rare languages in [[:Category:English male given names from unkonwn or rare languages]]? Or more exacly, from languages that are rare as origins of English names... Alternatively rare languages could be grouped together: "languages of Africa", "languages of Polynesia" etc. --[[User:Makaokalani|Makaokalani]] 13:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC) | | :Or should names from unkown and rare languages be kept permanently outside subcategories? I'd like to see as few subcategories as possible. I think a subcategory should have at least 10-20 members, so there are no categories for names from Provençal (Eleanor), Basque (Xavier), Akan (Kwame), Tahitian (Tehanu), Hawaiian (Leilani) even though they are borne by Anglophones. [[:Category:English male given names from Yoruba]] is madness. What about putting all the rare languages in [[:Category:English male given names from unkonwn or rare languages]]? Or more exacly, from languages that are rare as origins of English names... Alternatively rare languages could be grouped together: "languages of Africa", "languages of Polynesia" etc. --[[User:Makaokalani|Makaokalani]] 13:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC) |
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− | == <s>[[WT:ACZ]]</s> == | |
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− | The standard shortcut for [[WT:About Czech]] is [[WT:ACS]] as the code is {{temp|cs}}. I'm ambivalent about deleting it as it currently isn't in the way of anything necessary (there is no code {{temp|cz}}), but I thought I should bring it up nonetheless. --[[User:Bequw|Bequw]] <span class="Unicode">→</span> [[User talk:Bequw|τ]] 19:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :'''Delete'''. [[User:Mglovesfun|Mglovesfun]] ([[User talk:Mglovesfun|talk]]) 19:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :'''Delete'''. --[[User:Yair rand|Yair rand]] 14:45, 5 July 2011 (UTC) | |
− | :Some people may use it (typing in to the address bar), there are some links to it from old discussions, and there may be some from edit summaries (though I don't know). As there's no harm in keeping it (AFAICT), '''keep'''.<span class="Unicode">​—[[User:Msh210|msh210]]℠</span> ([[user talk:Msh210|talk]]) 15:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | :If it is deleted, the deleting admin should be sure the deletion summary points readers to ''[[Wiktionary:About Czech]]'', in case there are links from edit summaries. [[User:-sche|- -sche]] [[User talk:-sche|(discuss)]] 05:36, 21 July 2011 (UTC) | |
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− | '''deleted''' -- [[User:Liliana-60|Liliana]] [[User talk:Liliana-60|•]] 19:13, 22 November 2011 (UTC) | |
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| == [[Wiktionary:Inflection-table templates]] == | | == [[Wiktionary:Inflection-table templates]] == |