2012年5月30日 星期三

Wiktionary - Recent changes [en]: Talk:náhásdzo

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Talk:náhásdzo
May 31st 2012, 00:33

Imperfective?: new section

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::::: I think you're coming at it too much from the Navajo-language side of things. EN WT is intended for English readers, and as such needs to explain and label things as appropriate for an English reader. The term {{term|lang=nv|náhásdzo}} may be a verb, but if I understand the usage correctly, it is also used in a way that, for purposes of description in English, equates to a noun. The Japanese term {{l|ja|すごい|tr=''sugoi''}} is a stative verb, but for purposes of description in English, the entry here on WT appropriately labels two POSes, one as an adjective and one as an interjection.
 
::::: I think you're coming at it too much from the Navajo-language side of things. EN WT is intended for English readers, and as such needs to explain and label things as appropriate for an English reader. The term {{term|lang=nv|náhásdzo}} may be a verb, but if I understand the usage correctly, it is also used in a way that, for purposes of description in English, equates to a noun. The Japanese term {{l|ja|すごい|tr=''sugoi''}} is a stative verb, but for purposes of description in English, the entry here on WT appropriately labels two POSes, one as an adjective and one as an interjection.
 
::::: Deverbalized nouns are not uncommon, in either English or Navajo. Take {{term|lang=en|run}}, for instance -- one can have a run of good or bad luck, or a run in one's stocking, both noun usages of what is generally a verb. Or take {{term|lang=nv|naaltsoos}} or {{term|lang=nv|naanish}}, both third-person singular verb forms that are used as nouns. I would argue that {{term|lang=nv|náhásdzo}} (as I currently understand the term) is a similar word, to wit, a verb form that is also used as a noun. -- Cheers, [[User:Eirikr|Eiríkr Útlendi]] │ <small style="position: relative; top: -3px;">''[[User talk:Eirikr|Tala við mig]]''</small> 23:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 
::::: Deverbalized nouns are not uncommon, in either English or Navajo. Take {{term|lang=en|run}}, for instance -- one can have a run of good or bad luck, or a run in one's stocking, both noun usages of what is generally a verb. Or take {{term|lang=nv|naaltsoos}} or {{term|lang=nv|naanish}}, both third-person singular verb forms that are used as nouns. I would argue that {{term|lang=nv|náhásdzo}} (as I currently understand the term) is a similar word, to wit, a verb form that is also used as a noun. -- Cheers, [[User:Eirikr|Eiríkr Útlendi]] │ <small style="position: relative; top: -3px;">''[[User talk:Eirikr|Tala við mig]]''</small> 23:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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== Imperfective? ==
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That middle "s" looks like the si-perfective marker. Is {{term|lang=nv|náhásdzo}} really imperfective? -- [[User:Eirikr|Eiríkr&nbsp;Útlendi]]&nbsp;│&nbsp;<small style="position: relative; top: -3px;">''[[User talk:Eirikr|Tala&nbsp;við&nbsp;mig]]''</small> 00:33, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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